靠漏斗底部内容做到4万+ MRR,直到AI搜索迫使她调整策略
Hitting $40k+ MRR with bottom-of-funnel content until AI search forced her to change tactics
Slides With Friends · 互动演示SaaS · 3个月以上 · 4万+ MRR
- ⚡靠漏斗底部高购买意向博客内容实现自然搜索快速增长
- 🎯产品天然适配裂变,免费版开放无限活动权限撬动用户自发传播
- 🚀面对AI搜索流量下滑,快速转向高客单价企业客户拉升收入
- 💡明确反对用AI生成核心创意战略,仅用AI做调研和执行类任务
从自身远程协作需求出发,靠精准SEO内容和口碑获客做到4万+ MRR,AI搜索冲击流量后转型高LTV企业客户,对独立SaaS创业者参考性极强。

4万+ MRR和两个年幼的孩子
$40k+ MRR and two young kids
我最初在学术界工作,之后在品牌和营销机构任职,至今已经运营自己的科技创业公司约10年。这段时间里,我已经把好几家公司从最初的想法做到了约6万MRR的规模。我和联合创始人一起运营Slides With Friends,这是一款互动演示工具,2020年上线。我现在不再收入里程碑公开分享收入数据,但我们在2024年就已经突破了4万MRR。我最近刚生完孩子,正在抚养两个年幼的孩子,现在的生活忙碌而充实。
I started in academia, then worked at branding and marketing agencies, but I've been running my own tech startups for about a decade now. In that time, I've brought companies from an initial idea to about $60k MRR a few times. My cofounder and I work on Slides With Friends. It's an interactive presentation tool, launched in 2020. I don't share revenue publicly anymore, but we crossed $40k MRR in 2024. I'm also recently postpartum and raising two young kids. Life is busy and full for me these days!
Who is it for?
- ✓有SaaS创业经验的开发者
- ✓擅长SEO内容运营的创业者
- ✓有To B销售资源的从业者
Not for
- ✗无内容运营经验的纯技术开发者
- ✗期望快速变现的短平快创业者
- ✗无启动资金的个人创业者
为自己的其他业务开发产品
Building for her other business
Slides With Friends在疫情期间推出,那是一个人与人之间深度失联的特殊时产品起源期。和大多数实用工具一样,它诞生于我们自己当时的业务需求:打造一款工具来促进团队协作,比如开会、内容复盘、能力评估和互动游戏。我们需要一款工具,能让所有人无论身处何地,都可以轻松、有趣地组织和参与大型群体活动,同时还能完成新成员的入职培训。所以Slides With Friends完全是从疫情隔离期间我们自身的业务经验中生长出来的。
Slides With Friends launched during the pandemic, a time of profound disconnection. Like most useful tools, it arose from a need our own business had at the time: to facilitate connective teamwork like meetings, reviewing material, assessing, and playing. We needed a tool that made gathering and engaging large groups easy, fun, and accessible for everyone — regardless of location. And we needed a way to onboard and train new team members. So, Slides With Friends grew out of a different business's experience during quarantine.
产品定位参考
需求、经验和时间
Needs, experience, and time
我们能快速开发出第一个能产生付费用户的初始产品,得益于三个核心要素:1. 定义清晰的需求:我们不仅能满足自己的需求,也能服务其他用户和企业,完成带员工反馈和评估的会议场景 2. SaaS业务经验:我们俩之前都运营过公司,有软件开发经验 3. 充足的时间:疫情期间团队优势我们的其他业务大幅放缓,可以全身心投入开发。我和联合创始人花了大量时间讨论如何优化体验、用户想要什么、为什么想要、怎么把产品卖出去。
Building an initial product that led to paying users was possible and quicker for us, with the help of three key elements: A clearly defined need that we could fulfill not only for ourselves, but also for other users and businesses: running meetings with employee feedback and assessment. SaaS business experience: We both previously ran companies and built software. Time: With the pandemic, we could focus on this build because our other business slowed considerably. My cofounder and I spent long hours talking about what would perfect the experience, what people wanted, why they wanted it, and how to make it all salable.
团队模式参考
天然适配免费增值模式
A product that lends itself to freemium
我们采用订阅制,按席位定价。大多数用户是自助注册的个人用户,同时我们通过高接触销售拿下企业和组织的高客单价合同。我们的利润率是典型SaaS级别的优秀水平,主要成本是薪资和服务器。我们在做出MVP和销售官网之后就开始收费。第一个我们完首次付费全不认识的付费用户付了48美元获得无限年度访问权限,这发生在产品上线两个月之后,在此之前我们联系过的朋友和用户已经在使用并付费了,当时我们也已经上线了几篇高质量博客。我们的产品天然适配免费增值模式:作为互动演示工具,用户在使用的时候就会向他所在的群体自发传播,所有参与活动的人都会在现场体验到产品的「啊哈时刻」。因此我们提供了非常宽松的免费增值层级,允许用户举办无限场直播活动,办的活动越多,相当于帮我们做的传播就越多。
We're a subscription model, and we price by the seat. Most of our users are self-serve individuals, and we secure larger ACV contracts with orgs and enterprises through higher-touch sales. Our margins are typical-SaaS-excellent; the main costs are payroll and servers. We started charging when we had an MVP and a sales website. The first paying user that we didn't know — always a very exciting moment — gave us $48 for unlimited annual access. This occurred after the tool had been live for a couple of months, with friends and users we had reached out to already using and paying us. At that point, we also had a few strong blog posts up. We have a product that lends itself well to freemium: it's an interactive presentation tool. Users market it to their group when they use it, because their whole group experiences that "aha moment" during their live event. We therefore offer a robust freemium tier that lets people host unlimited live events. The more events, the more marketing they do for us.
启动策略参考
迭代增长策略
Iterating on growth
在找到真正有效的增长策略之前,我们走了很多弯路。比如我们尝试过Product Hunt上线,但完全没爆。直到我们做了两件事之后增长才真正起来:第一,我们极其细致地明确了理想客户画像:我们解决什么问题,谁愿意为这个解决方案付费?第二,我们用两类内容触达理想客户:漏斗底部、带有明确购买意向的博客内容,以及口碑传播——因为我们的工具是群体活动平核心增长策略台,口碑传播效果非常好。最开始自然搜索是我们最强的渠道,也是我们最擅长的领域,带来了快速增长。现在我们依然能获得足够的流量转化为优质线索,但最近AI搜索格局的变化导致我们的收入有所下滑。我们现在正聚焦于向高LTV的 inbound 合格理想客户做销售,重新拉动收入增长:用AI根据邮箱地址、注册信息、产品使用行为等参数给线索分层,判断他们的潜在价值。我们始终在边做边迭代适配。
We did a lot of wheel-spinning before we honed in on effective growth strategies. For example, we tried Product Hunt launches. But it didn't take off until we did two things. First, we had to understand our Ideal Customer Profile (ICP) in extreme detail: What problems did we solve, and who was willing to pay for that solution? Then, we had to target our ICP with: Bottom-of-the-funnel, buying-intent blog content, Word of mouth, which worked well because our tool is a group event platform. In the beginning, organic search was our strongest channel and, also being one of our bailiwicks, yielded fast growth. Now, we still get enough traffic for good leads, but the recent shifts in the AI search landscape caused revenue to fall. We are moving the needle back up again by focusing on higher LTV sales to inbound, qualified ICPs. AI sorts these leads to determine their potential value based on parameters like email address, onboarding details provided, product-qualifying activities, etc. We iterate and adapt as we go.
增长策略参考
时间和流失问题
Time and churn
我们所在的行业有一个特点:用户偏好新鲜感,所以很多年度订阅到期之后会出现流失。因此我们拓展了更多企业级使用场景,这类场景的用户留存周期更长。如果让我重来一次,我可能从一开始就会把产品定位成「实用工具」而不是「趣味玩具」。时间是定位反思我现在最大的挑战,我现在能支配的时间非常少,所以我对时间的投入极其谨慎。我觉得当初生孩子的时候应该更彻底地暂停工作,同时兼顾两件事真的非常难。
One of the aspects of our particular industry is that it's novelty-biased, meaning we get some churn after annual subscriptions expire. As a result, we expanded into more business use cases, which offer longer staying power. If I were to start over, I might position us this way from the start — less toy, more tool. Time is my other challenge. It's the real golden value, and I have so little of it right now that I am hypervigilant about where I spend it. I think it would have been a good idea to pause more fully while having babies — trying to do both has been hard.
关键证据
- {"quote":"拓展企业级场景,拉长用户留存周期","label":"流失应对"}
我的独特优势
Unfair advantages
我能走到今天离不开所有的帮助、运气和坚持。首先我的联合创始人也是我的丈夫,他有出色的业务和技术天赋,对学习、适应和寻找新路径的投入是我们的独家秘方。之前的天使投资也帮我们走到了现在的位置,以我现在的状态没有这些支持根本做不到。另外我还有育儿和家人的帮助,有年幼孩子的情况下没有这些支持根本不可能兼顾。我个人最大的特质就是坚持往前走,很多事你直接动手去做就好了。
I would not be here today without all the help, luck, and perseverance I've been blessed with. First, my cofounder, who is also my husband, drives ideas and possesses true business and technical talent. His dedication to learning, adapting, and finding paths forward is our special sauce. Past funding launched us to where we are now — I couldn't do this as I am without those angels. I also have childcare and family help. I couldn't do this without help, especially with young kids at this stage of my life — if you can, I am impressed by you and hope you are doing okay! My main quality is a drive to just keep going. You can just do things, you know.
核心心态
独立思考的建议
Do your own thinking
我的建议是:先考虑他人的需求,再考虑自己。这样你才能足够理解需求,打造定制化的解决方案并把它卖出去。如果你一开始的出发点是「我想当创业者」,你会完全没有方向。但如果你从「我理解一个其他人也遇到的问题,他们需要什么,我怎么帮他们」出发,你马上就能找到业务方向。另外不要用AI生成创意或者战略,它只会把思路搅乱,只能从AI使用原则训练数据里回收旧内容,根本产生不了新的创意火花。你可以用AI做调研和完成具体任务,它就像一个非常勤奋但没有大局观的新手实习生,核心的思考必须你自己完成。
Here's my advice. Think about others before yourself. This helps you understand a need well enough to create a custom solution and sell it. If you start from "I want to be an entrepreneur," you lack direction. If you start from "Here's a problem I understand that others also have — what do they need, how can I help them?" — you gain business direction. Oh, and don't use AI to give you ideas or strategy — it makes things muddy, and can only recycle from its training data, which is not a good recipe for "new" or sparks of genius. Use it for research and task completion; this is where it shines. It's like having a very dedicated, but not big-picture-understanding, first-time intern. Do your own thinking.
创业建议
未来规划
What's next?
接下来我的目标是做到约10未来目标0万ARR,之后卖掉公司,再启动新项目,花更多时间陪孩子。我会通过提升高客单价合同的销售额来实现这个目标,等流程跑通之后我会招一个专职销售。我现在已经不用任何社交媒体了,它们太消耗时间和注意力,你必须把注意力留给真正重要的事。你可以访问我们的官网slideswith.com了解产品详情。
From here, I want to grow to around $1M ARR, then sell, start something new, and spend more time with my kids. I'll do that by increasing ACV contract sales. And by hiring a salesperson once we solidify that process. I don't have any socials anymore. They eat time and mindshare — and you have to tend and cultivate what gets your mindshare. But you can check out slideswith.com.
里程碑规划
- {"year":"2025+","event":"做到100万ARR后出售公司,开启新项目"}
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This is incredibly valuable. Seeing the $40K+ MRR journey laid out like this is inspiring. The "toy vs tool" shift really resonates. Building my API product (ModelBridge), I've been going through the same realization — starting as a side project that made multi-model access easier, but the real retention comes from being "production-grade infrastructure." Also, the AI search traffic change hits close to home. AI makes information more accessible, but it also makes "just blogging" harder to reach users. Are you seeing a strategic shift from PLG toward SLG with the higher-ACV enterprise focus?
这篇内容非常有价值,完整展现4万+ MRR的成长路径很鼓舞人。「玩具vs工具」的定位点让我深有共鸣,我自己做API产品ModelBridge也有同样的感悟:一开始只是简化多模型访问的小项目,真正带来留存的是把它打造成生产级基础设施。另外AI搜索带来的流量变化我也感同身受,AI让信息更易得,但纯靠博客触达用户变得更难了。请问你们聚焦高客单价企业客户的过程中,是不是正在从PLG向SLG战略转型?
笔记:评论者结合自身创业经历提问,点出了SaaS定位和增长模式转型的共性问题,具备普遍参考意义。
Localization Notes
- 国内可从飞书、腾讯文档、钉钉的互动演示插件赛道切入,避开独立SaaS的激烈竞争
- 适配微信生态分享场景,活动互动结果可直接分享到微信群/朋友圈,降低传播门槛
- 接入微信支付、阿里云等国内基础设施,满足国内用户使用习惯和数据合规要求
- 优先从中小企业会议互动、员工培训场景切入获客,降低用户教育成本
- 可结合国内AI大模型能力,在互动演示中加入AI自动生成互动题、实时数据统计等差异化功能